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« Reply #725 on: Aug 31, 2014 07:20 pm »

I was surprised that I was the first to mention it on these forums. At this point, I'm waiting for a Blu-Ray transfer. They have to put ATLA on Blu-Ray at some point, right? It's practically free money!

A Blu-ray set (done right) would be incredible! Just keep the show at 4:3 fullscreen, have it in 1080p, bring back all the bonus features while adding new ones, and the fandom is set!
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« Reply #726 on: Aug 31, 2014 11:02 pm »

The only chance we have of a Blu ray set happening is for the 10th anniversary coming up. If it doesn't happen then, I have a feeling it's never going to.
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« Reply #727 on: Sep 10, 2014 06:18 pm »

Hey everyone, I just recently joined this forum after I finally got around to watching the original Avatar series! I recently bought Books 1 & 2 on sale at Target, and then purchased Book 3 last week from Amazon. When Book 3 came in the mail, I noticed that the disc package did not fit in the case that well. I did not remember this problem with the first two DVD sets and sure enough they both fit snugly. Standing the cases next to each other it was apparent that the Book 3 case was about 1/4 inch taller than the others. I was just wondering if this was a common issue with the Book 3 production run or if anyone else has encountered a similar situation like this? It isn't a huge deal but I just thought it was curious that such an error would occur. I also provided a picture below:

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« Reply #728 on: Sep 10, 2014 06:22 pm »

I bought Book 3 when it first came out, and the outer case is both snug around the disc-holder and the same size as the others.

If there was an issue, it must have been with a later printing.

You should also check to confirm that your discs have the advertised creator commentary on them. There was an issue reported a while ago where some people wound up with discs from the single-disc releases, that didn't have commentary on all the same episodes.
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« Reply #729 on: Sep 10, 2014 06:40 pm »

I bought Book 3 when it first came out, and the outer case is both snug around the disc-holder and the same size as the others.

If there was an issue, it must have been with a later printing.

You should also check to confirm that your discs have the advertised creator commentary on them. There was an issue reported a while ago where some people wound up with discs from the single-disc releases, that didn't have commentary on all the same episodes.

Ah, thanks for the info. I just checked my set and it does look like they have the audio commentaries which is nice. Also, when you mentioned audio commentaries, that made me realize that there is no audio option in the Book 3 DVD menus. If I remember correctly, Books 1 & 2 had French/Spanish language tracks as well? Is it common knowledge that all Book 3 Complete Collections have only the English track available? Was anyone able to figure out why they made this change for Book 3?
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« Reply #730 on: Sep 27, 2014 02:55 am »

Hi, I have the first season of ATLA on DVD (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/517PAR8EAKL.jpg) and noticed that the first four episodes (all of disk 1) are blurry. I remember reading that this is the same on all book 1 sets, not just mine. I was wondering if there have been any re-releases of book 1 or if i can buy the first four episodes somewhere else? Is the first disc of the collectors edition blurry?

I really don't want to buy from itunes or amazon. On itunes its only in standard definition and i don't like the file type it is saved as. On amazon i think they only let you stream it from amazon prime, and i don't want to have to use amazon every time i want to watch it.

I'm going to buy season 2 and 3 soon. Are they better in quality? Should i buy them?

Thank you for any help!!
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« Reply #731 on: Sep 27, 2014 07:27 pm »

Hi, I have the first season of ATLA on DVD (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/517PAR8EAKL.jpg) and noticed that the first four episodes (all of disk 1) are blurry. I remember reading that this is the same on all book 1 sets, not just mine. I was wondering if there have been any re-releases of book 1 or if i can buy the first four episodes somewhere else? Is the first disc of the collectors edition blurry?

I really don't want to buy from itunes or amazon. On itunes its only in standard definition and i don't like the file type it is saved as. On amazon i think they only let you stream it from amazon prime, and i don't want to have to use amazon every time i want to watch it.

I'm going to buy season 2 and 3 soon. Are they better in quality? Should i buy them?

Thank you for any help!!

Yeah, the quality on disc one is just awful. I recently started re-watching the series and was reminded of it's horribleness (a Blu-ray set NEEDS to happen!).

If I remember right it's really only the first disc of season one that's messed up. The rest of Book One through the end of Book Three is pretty solid video-wise. It's at least leagues better than the first few episodes. Also, the collector's edition is essentially a re-packaging of the regular box set, so the video quality is identical.

If you want to get the first few episodes somewhere else, I think Xbox Video might have them? I'm not entirely sure and since you don't want iTunes. Amazon does do streaming, yes, but you can purchase individual episodes too in standard definition.

Let me know if any of this helps!
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« Reply #732 on: Sep 27, 2014 08:22 pm »

Yeah, the quality on disc one is just awful. I recently started re-watching the series and was reminded of it's horribleness (a Blu-ray set NEEDS to happen!).

If I remember right it's really only the first disc of season one that's messed up. The rest of Book One through the end of Book Three is pretty solid video-wise. It's at least leagues better than the first few episodes. Also, the collector's edition is essentially a re-packaging of the regular box set, so the video quality is identical.

If you want to get the first few episodes somewhere else, I think Xbox Video might have them? I'm not entirely sure and since you don't want iTunes. Amazon does do streaming, yes, but you can purchase individual episodes too in standard definition.

Let me know if any of this helps!

Yes. thank you! I guess i'll be waiting for a blu-ray copy just like everyone else.
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« Reply #733 on: Sep 28, 2014 01:33 am »

Unfortunately a blu-ray will probably never happen.
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« Reply #734 on: Oct 07, 2014 03:03 pm »

Yes I noticed that as well! I just recently had a marathon and the first few episodes of Season one weren't too pleasant on the eyes. I hope there is a blu-ray release, I would be disappointed if they didn't do something for the upcoming 10th anniversary. I was already bummed out when they announced the Korra date because it wouldn't reach the 10th anniversary.  So here's hoping that they do something special even if it's not a blu-ray set.
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« Reply #735 on: Dec 18, 2014 09:46 pm »

Anyone seen the complete box set? I saw it at JB hi-fi today. Looks pretty darn good. Took a photo, will upload later.
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« Reply #736 on: Dec 18, 2014 10:17 pm »

To my knowledge, the complete box set has never been official but other countries package them that way.
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« Reply #737 on: Dec 18, 2014 10:33 pm »

To my knowledge, the complete box set has never been official but other countries package them that way.
That would be the one. And really? But it's so pretty looking...
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« Reply #738 on: Dec 18, 2014 10:42 pm »

Someone reviewed it in this thread last year. It's just a sleeve for the individual season box sets.
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« Reply #739 on: Jul 13, 2015 07:41 pm »

Well, it looks like the Complete Series is coming to DVD in the USA on October 6th:

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Avatar-Airbender-The-Complete-Series/21300

I'll never stop hoping for a Blu-ray release! I keep tweeting @NickelodeonDVD, but maybe if more people did they'd see there's a demand? Wink
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« Reply #740 on: Jul 13, 2015 10:46 pm »

Well, it looks like the Complete Series is coming to DVD in the USA on October 6th:

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Avatar-Airbender-The-Complete-Series/21300

I'll never stop hoping for a Blu-ray release! I keep tweeting @NickelodeonDVD, but maybe if more people did they'd see there's a demand? Wink

A:tLA was never made in HD.  The only advantage to a Blu-ray version would be the chance to watch the show on three discs instead of sixteen.  >_>;

Maybe this new version will have a better transfer, though... there's certainly room for improvement there, even sticking with DVDs.
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« Reply #741 on: Jul 13, 2015 11:39 pm »

Well, it looks like the Complete Series is coming to DVD in the USA on October 6th:

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Avatar-Airbender-The-Complete-Series/21300

I'll never stop hoping for a Blu-ray release! I keep tweeting @NickelodeonDVD, but maybe if more people did they'd see there's a demand? Wink

A:tLA was never made in HD.  The only advantage to a Blu-ray version would be the chance to watch the show on three discs instead of sixteen.  >_>;

Maybe this new version will have a better transfer, though... there's certainly room for improvement there, even sticking with DVDs.

Upconversions have been done that are great improvements over DVD, so even if ATLA couldn't be remastered, it could still look better than it does now. The big benefit of Blu-ray really would be in the audio. A higher quality mix would be fantastic.
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« Reply #742 on: Jul 13, 2015 11:43 pm »

For three discs and better audio, I'd be inclined to rebuy. Call me lazy, but having to change discs so often is annoying.

I could rip my discs, but I don't watch it all that often and don't make gifs, so I don't have much reason to.
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« Reply #743 on: Jul 14, 2015 01:07 am »

I wonder if these dvds will be the widescreen version of the episodes that aired on nicktoons. To me thats the next best thing short of a blu ray release.
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« Reply #744 on: Jul 14, 2015 04:01 am »

I wonder if these dvds will be the widescreen version of the episodes that aired on nicktoons. To me thats the next best thing short of a blu ray release.
You mean, having the top and bottom of every frame forcibly cropped, removing valuable imaging data. Especially when such a function already exists on most widescreen TVs anyways? No thanks.

@Ikkin: as Ooze33 and Selofain mentioned, higher quality audio mixes would be a beneficial advantage. And also potentially my post here, which you probably remember. There's one thing I neglected to mention in that post though. A frame of a visual content on a TV screen from a show like Avatar doesn't just consist of, for example, one glossy piece of paper that looks exactly like what the screen looks. It's a composite of foreground characters/props on top of a background (which may have multiple layers). Although the characters, etc. are all hand drawn (which is where you pointed out a rescan likely wouldn't add any extra visual content), the backgrounds themselves are either drawn, or are actual photographs, likely being much higher than standard definition quality. Considering the show is known for it's scenery porn, I'd pay just to see the few seconds of scene backdrops at high definition.

Compare this screenshot to the image at the bottom of page 133 of the art book. They're the same shot (although it looks to have different color correction) of the same thing at the same angle. The art book has much more vivid detail. I also now just noticed the aspect ratio in the book is wider than in the screenshot from the show, with the show actually chopping off the right and left edges. Who knows, maybe every backdrop was done like this. Not that that would make the characters suddenly fill the 16:9 gap (and considering this random page has multiple shots of Katara moving offscreen or closeups of just Aang's head, I'm sure sudden transitions to the background would be jarring), but who knows... who knows for sure they weren't drawn in 16:9 and cropped for the master tapes?
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« Reply #745 on: Jul 14, 2015 06:00 am »

@Ikkin: as Ooze33 and Selofain mentioned, higher quality audio mixes would be a beneficial advantage. And also potentially my post here, which you probably remember. There's one thing I neglected to mention in that post though. A frame of a visual content on a TV screen from a show like Avatar doesn't just consist of, for example, one glossy piece of paper that looks exactly like what the screen looks. It's a composite of foreground characters/props on top of a background (which may have multiple layers). Although the characters, etc. are all hand drawn (which is where you pointed out a rescan likely wouldn't add any extra visual content), the backgrounds themselves are either drawn, or are actual photographs, likely being much higher than standard definition quality. Considering the show is known for it's scenery porn, I'd pay just to see the few seconds of scene backdrops at high definition.

Compare this screenshot to the image at the bottom of page 133 of the art book. They're the same shot (although it looks to have different color correction) of the same thing at the same angle. The art book has much more vivid detail. I also now just noticed the aspect ratio in the book is wider than in the screenshot from the show, with the show actually chopping off the right and left edges. Who knows, maybe every backdrop was done like this. Not that that would make the characters suddenly fill the 16:9 gap (and considering this random page has multiple shots of Katara moving offscreen or closeups of just Aang's head, I'm sure sudden transitions to the background would be jarring), but who knows... who knows for sure they weren't drawn in 16:9 and cropped for the master tapes?

There's a really big difference between keeping a few pieces of meaningful key art and keeping the million-plus/millions of original drawings for everything, though.  I mean, keeping all of it around as paper would be a massive waste of space, and I suspect that a lot of it would have been given away and spread around as souvenirs once there was no longer any use for it.  What they have now is probably limited by what they kept digitally, and there's no guarantee that any of that is higher than SD resolution-wise.

For contrast, Square-Enix -- which animated everything digitally to begin with -- dumped all its component files for Advent Children and its cutscene work, which is why Advent Children Complete is half SD and the HD remasters of their old games use upscaled cutscenes rather than re-rendered ones.  There isn't any guarantee that Nick would have kept enough of the show in layers to allow for improvement via that method -- storage of that sort of stuff is expensive, and I imagine that it was even more so back in 2005.

As for the sound, we know for a fact that the original tracks are no longer usable, because Jeremy's said that a number of times.  (Personally, I think he should "leak" it and let the internet hack the files open, since we all know how incredible the internet is at reverse-engineering proprietary file formats, but that's just me.  Wink )  There might be room for significant improvement in the Sozin's Comet arc, depending on how the live performance was recorded, but the rest of the show was done with MIDI synthesization and might not even gain that much from the extra transfer quality.

No matter what they did, though, I feel like the result would be more inconsistent in quality than the original, which might be something they'd rather avoid.  It'd look weird to have SD characters on HD backgrounds and have awesome sound in the finale after MIDI music for the first 57 episodes.  =/
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« Reply #746 on: Jul 16, 2015 08:35 pm »

I really wish it had a Blu-ray release. I will only pick this up if there are some cool new extras.
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« Reply #747 on: Jul 16, 2015 08:40 pm »

Avatar Complete Series DVD, complete with new cover art! Bryan says it goes on sale in the US/Canada on 10/6. No mention of price, new/old extras, anything.
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« Reply #748 on: Jul 16, 2015 11:54 pm »

Avatar Complete Series DVD, complete with new cover art! Bryan says it goes on sale in the US/Canada on 10/6. No mention of price, new/old extras, anything.

Wow, love the new art! Still unsure about buying, guess we'll have to wait and see if there'll be some new extras or features.
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« Reply #749 on: Jul 17, 2015 04:32 pm »

I wonder if these dvds will be the widescreen version of the episodes that aired on nicktoons. To me thats the next best thing short of a blu ray release.
You mean, having the top and bottom of every frame forcibly cropped, removing valuable imaging data. Especially when such a function already exists on most widescreen TVs anyways? No thanks.

There wasn't really that much removed and it actually looked nice. I mean, at least if they did that this dvd release would be different from previous releases.

Anyway, the cover art looks cool. The Book 1 art is my favorite of the three. Still not sure if I'm getting this though. I have Amazon Prime so I get the whole series through there and I own all the previous dvds so there needs to be some more incentive for me to buy this.
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