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AtoMaki
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« Reply #25 on: Dec 31, 2015 05:40 am »

Let's face it, the Equalist story isn't all that great in isolation, it's just X-Men again.

Not even that, as X-Men didn't have the society harnessing mutant powers for mundane tasks like construction or power generation - not to mention that mutants couldn't hide their powers in the same way as benders. The X-Men human/mutant conflict makes sense in its own way, but the Equalist conflict makes exactly zero sense (obviously, as it is just a big scam).
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« Reply #26 on: Dec 31, 2015 08:20 pm »

Are we actually comparing LOK to the Star Wars prequels? Those CGI pieces of garbage have no grand ideas, no technique, and did more damage to its franchise than literally anything before or since! The stupid Jedi Order idea was completely unintentional. It takes a royally bad writer to make your good guys look like the bad guys. How exactly did LOK damage ATLA? Because it changed the origin of bending? "Oh, they learned from animals and the moon, and now they got it from another animal" Series ruined(not). Here's how the prequels damaged the original trilogy :

1. Turning the Force into super powered wish fullfillment and biology(midichlorians) instead of spiritual enlightment.
2. Not properly showing Obi Wan and Anakin's friendship(they practically hate each other).
3. Making Darth Vader a whiny, spoiled stalker brat who slaughters children.
4. Sucking all the mystery out of Boba Fett and choosing a terrible child actor for him that had never even seen a Star Wars movie.
5. Yoda and Palpatine... with a LIGHTSABER? That goes against literally everything we knew about Yoda, and Palpatine specifically calls it a "Jedi weapon". It's not even a Sith weapon and Vader has it cause he used to be a Jedi! This also goes for the idiotic idea of the Jedi Order and Jedi Academy. Seriously? All the Jedis conveniently in one place, fighting wars and killing people? I thought it was supposed to be like some kind of rare religion.
6. Diminishing the value of the Clone Wars, Anakin's fall, and so many other things by making an elaborate 6 hour backstory that is completely unnecessary and has no surprises.
7. Tarnishing the legacy of Star Wars with a trilogy of terrible, lazily made, cheesy, and boring movies that JJ Abrams had to fix.

On top of that, Lucas wasn't even TRYING to make a good story. If you've heard of the Star Wars Ring theory, then you know all Lucas tried to do was make the shots look similar to the OT but in reverse. Then he just made one draft so he'd have something happening and voila! A recipe for horrible movies! It's not even like with the Force Awakens, where it was meant to repeat some of the plot and themes of the OT. It's the shots. It doesn't add anything to the story and just makes it worse. LOK is a masterpiece compared to the prequels.

tl:dr Never mentioned the prequels again lol
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« Reply #27 on: Jan 01, 2016 01:53 am »

Are we actually comparing LOK to the Star Wars prequels? Those CGI pieces of garbage have no grand ideas, no technique, and did more damage to its franchise than literally anything before or since! The stupid Jedi Order idea was completely unintentional. It takes a royally bad writer to make your good guys look like the bad guys. How exactly did LOK damage ATLA? Because it changed the origin of bending? "Oh, they learned from animals and the moon, and now they got it from another animal" Series ruined(not). Here's how the prequels damaged the original trilogy :

1. Turning the Force into super powered wish fullfillment and biology(midichlorians) instead of spiritual enlightment.
2. Not properly showing Obi Wan and Anakin's friendship(they practically hate each other).
3. Making Darth Vader a whiny, spoiled stalker brat who slaughters children.
4. Sucking all the mystery out of Boba Fett and choosing a terrible child actor for him that had never even seen a Star Wars movie.
5. Yoda and Palpatine... with a LIGHTSABER? That goes against literally everything we knew about Yoda, and Palpatine specifically calls it a "Jedi weapon". It's not even a Sith weapon and Vader has it cause he used to be a Jedi! This also goes for the idiotic idea of the Jedi Order and Jedi Academy. Seriously? All the Jedis conveniently in one place, fighting wars and killing people? I thought it was supposed to be like some kind of rare religion.
6. Diminishing the value of the Clone Wars, Anakin's fall, and so many other things by making an elaborate 6 hour backstory that is completely unnecessary and has no surprises.
7. Tarnishing the legacy of Star Wars with a trilogy of terrible, lazily made, cheesy, and boring movies that JJ Abrams had to fix.

On top of that, Lucas wasn't even TRYING to make a good story. If you've heard of the Star Wars Ring theory, then you know all Lucas tried to do was make the shots look similar to the OT but in reverse. Then he just made one draft so he'd have something happening and voila! A recipe for horrible movies! It's not even like with the Force Awakens, where it was meant to repeat some of the plot and themes of the OT. It's the shots. It doesn't add anything to the story and just makes it worse. LOK is a masterpiece compared to the prequels.

tl:dr Never mentioned the prequels again lol

Cheesy  Why don't you tell us how you really feel?  Cheesy  Sounds about right, though.
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« Reply #28 on: Jan 02, 2016 04:32 pm »

The stupid Jedi Order idea was completely unintentional. It takes a royally bad writer to make your good guys look like the bad guys.

Don't tell Alan Dean Foster. He thinks the prologue he wrote for the original Star Wars novelization in 1976 was pretty good.
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« Reply #29 on: Jan 05, 2016 01:22 pm »

Concerning LoK - SW prequels comparison, here's my take in more detail:

Unfortunately, both LoK and the prequels suffered from the following problems:

- Large casts of underdeveloped characters ranging from the boring (the Jedi) to the annoying (almost all comic relief characters) to the superfluous, to the irrelevant (Asami  Roll Eyes ), and main characters (Anakin and Korra) that were annoying and unrelatable some of the time;
- Clunky dialogue that failed to give life to character interactions (I wish I could just wish away my feelings Cheesy but why was LoK's dialogue so inert, why?)
- Some question-begging subplots (political and otherwise) that often rendered everyone involved as incompetent and only served to spark artificial conflicts so that we can get to what we 'really' wanted to see, which was:
- Fight scenes and action, which while perhaps more visually entertaining than in the originals, were less meaningful due to sheer pervasiveness (lightsabers/metalbending/lightning bending/OP waterbending overload) combined with loss of symbolism and detachment from character and thematic points - reducing much of the drama to the level of a video game;
- Exasperating tonal imbalance of childish potty humor existing in the same space as political intrigue; and last but not least:
- Contrived shipping. It was coarse, rough and irritating and it got everywhere  Angry


Concerning the damage to the original universe, yes I find LoK to be more potent ATM. Apart from political setup (Republic vs Empire) The SW universe didn't really change between the trilogies. The midiclorians ish might have uncomfortable implications, but it doesn't deviate too far from what we already knew: that not all have Force potential, and that the Skywalker bloodline had strong Force potential. In LoK however, we went from a pre-industrial world of classic civilizations to a Westernized one with robots and spirit lasers to boot. LoK also messed around with its magical elements (bending, the Avatar's office and spirit shenanigans) to a far greater extent than the prequels did with the Force.
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« Reply #30 on: Apr 10, 2016 07:27 pm »

Are we actually comparing LOK to the Star Wars prequels?

1. Turning spiritual enlightenment into crying for wish fulfillment (Korra) and biology (Jinora) instead of spiritual enlightenment.
2. Not properly showing anyone's friendship (they practically hate each other with the exception of Bolin and Varrick the latter who loves this random kid more than his own people/tribe and representing Avatar - I got Mass Effect 3 vibes with how that "kid" who the main character can't get out of his head from the third game appears. It's like Varrick is drawn to the black hole of writing.)
3. Making Darth Aang a distant, Katara-isolating Lincoln-beard wearing vegan (they got turned into vegans from vegetarians) who neglects his children.
4. Sucking all the mystery out of spirits and choosing a terrible child savior to save the world twice.
5. Korra and Unalaq... with an EVANGELION? That goes against literally everything we knew about Korra, and Unalaq specifically talks about spirituality. Korra's not even spiritual and Unalaq has it because he got his dark evil tapeworm inside him! This also goes for the idea of the White Lotus and Republic military. Seriously? All the White Lotus conveniently in one place, that is being far away from wars and away from saving people? I thought it was supposed to be like some kind of rare philosophy.
6. Diminishing the value of the 100 Year War, spirituality, and so many other things by making an elaborate 46 minute backstory that is completely unnecessary.

Number 7 remains to be seen. She's still has a lot to learn, but I believe the Korra comics can save...something.

Star Wars has many many spinoffs and books and games and things to build on and sell stuff to show its self off. Avatar has AtLA, the Shyllamadrama movie, and LoK.
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