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« Reply #50 on: Jul 25, 2015 01:28 pm »

The book seemed interesting at first but seeing the confusion and chaos about release date, I can only say that whoever is in charge, doesn't care about it. And that's a big problem with products like this.
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« Reply #51 on: Jul 25, 2015 08:10 pm »

Since it has now been available for a while to international audiences I was wondering if anyone has actually bought this book yet.

I have been tempted myself, but the huge price of this thing and the fact that I barely know anything about the book has put me off so far.

I mean, in the web shop where I usually find these it costs more than twice as much as one of the comics, and almost as much as the art books (which admittedly are on sale, but still), which is one hell of a lot for 64 pages.

https://www.saxo.com/dk/avatar_michael-teitelbaum_hardback_9781608874477
https://www.saxo.com/dk/avatar_bryan-konietzko_hardback_9781595825049
https://www.saxo.com/dk/avatar-the-last-airbender-the-rift-3_gene-luen-yang_paperback_9781616552978

It would be nice to know a little more about this book, does anyone know where there is more information to be found about it?



The book definitely hasn't been released yet. As for the pricing, it's currently at about $12 on Amazon US.

http://www.amazon.com/Avatar-Airbender-Legacy-Insight-Legends/dp/1608874478/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1437873039&sr=1-1&keywords=avatar+legacy&pebp=1437873023885&perid=0QX8FT5DXCJ61KKWW2Y1
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« Reply #52 on: Jul 26, 2015 06:07 am »

I’ think I’ll stick with my usual sources, last time I tried using Amazon it left me with a ridiculous shipping charge. (Heh, not the kind of shipping this board talks about very often…)

But I guess my problem still stands; nobody knows a damn thing about this book!
There are no previews, no reviews, barely any synopsis or any kind of looks into the book. All the info we have on it is rather uncertain and vague. We barely even know if it has been released or not, although it appears to be available internationally. I’m not even sure what kind of book it is. Is it mostly text or are there lots of illustrations? 64 pages is a rather low amount. It’s probably not a comic, but the descriptions don’t say enough to be sure. Even a quick look at some of the author’s work isn’t all that helpful, his work on Transformers at least seems rather uninteresting.

I’m just a bit worried if this would feel like a bit of a rip-off, and therefore I would like to know more about what this book actually is.
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« Reply #53 on: Jul 26, 2015 07:16 am »

^It's probably one of those things that just got green lit and forgotten. So no one cares to do any advertisement for it.
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« Reply #54 on: Jul 26, 2015 12:10 pm »

^It's probably one of those things that just got green lit and forgotten. So no one cares to do any advertisement for it.

I wouldn't say it's been forgotten. The cover was just recently revealed last month. As for the lack of information -  the book will be released in very late October. Maybe we'll find out more when the release date approaches. (I still say the book hasn't been released internationally because one website appears to have it in stock -  whether they do or not can only be verified if someone buys it. I doubt that they do. Every other website doesn't.)

But I guess my problem still stands; nobody knows a damn thing about this book!
There are no previews, no reviews, barely any synopsis or any kind of looks into the book. All the info we have on it is rather uncertain and vague. We barely even know if it has been released or not, although it appears to be available internationally. I’m not even sure what kind of book it is. Is it mostly text or are there lots of illustrations? 64 pages is a rather low amount. It’s probably not a comic, but the descriptions don’t say enough to be sure. Even a quick look at some of the author’s work isn’t all that helpful, his work on Transformers at least seems rather uninteresting.

I’m just a bit worried if this would feel like a bit of a rip-off, and therefore I would like to know more about what this book actually is.

Considering how long it took just to reveal the cover - a whole year after it was initially announced - it's not surprising that there isn't much information on it, though i don't think it's strange that there aren't any reviews for it yet. I remember The Search Part 3 had its first review less that two months before release, and the contents of that book were a lot more important for the series than this. Why would Legacy have any reviews or previews this long before late October? Also, I think a look into the author's work is helpful to some degree - he did The Lost Scrolls and the Journeys Through the Earth Kingdom series of books. His writing style is simplistic and definitely geared towards younger readers - books for young children are what he specialises in. Based on this and the length of the book, I doubt that the writing in Legacy is going to be anything groundbreaking or interesting.

I'm buying it because i like owning hardcover Avatar books, and the cover looks very nice. I'm assuming there'll be illustrations (otherwise, what's the point in making it hardcover rather than paperback?) so they're an added bonus. If it's good, that's cool, if it's not, then at least it will be nice to look at.
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« Reply #55 on: Jul 26, 2015 02:18 pm »

I wouldn't say it's been forgotten. The cover was just recently revealed last month. As for the lack of information -  the book will be released in very late October. Maybe we'll find out more when the release date approaches. (I still say the book hasn't been released internationally because one website appears to have it in stock -  whether they do or not can only be verified if someone buys it. I doubt that they do. Every other website doesn't.)
Well, cover is a must have, they can't release something without it. But what I mean is that Nick forgot about it because it doesn't do any advertisement for it. No early reviews, no extra info, pretty much nothing compared to comics where we get previews, interviews and Bryke talk about them on panels.
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« Reply #56 on: Jul 26, 2015 03:25 pm »

The comics and artbooks are produced by Dark Horse who is most likely responsible for all of their advertising, and the original comics from the Lost Adventures series only got promoted because they were featured in Nick Magazine. None of the other books (and there are quite a few of them) got promoted. I only ever knew about them because of my time in fandom or because they would get rec'ed to me by Amazon whenever I bought Avatar DVDs.
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« Reply #57 on: Jul 28, 2015 04:18 pm »

Is this book showing the early lives of the entire gAangs children? It would be great to see some Sokka babies, Izumi, and Lin and Su's dad.
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« Reply #58 on: Sep 07, 2015 01:25 pm »

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« Reply #59 on: Sep 07, 2015 01:58 pm »

Huh...so it looks like this is more of a guide to the original series more then anything.
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« Reply #60 on: Sep 07, 2015 02:13 pm »

Yeah, it really looks that way.
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« Reply #61 on: Sep 07, 2015 02:14 pm »

I'm curious if this is just a rephrasing of the kiddie guide books that were published during the cartoon's run.
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« Reply #62 on: Sep 07, 2015 02:35 pm »

Aang's face on that first preview page... kinda scares me. Those pupils just don't look right. Hopefully the other original illustrations look better. I'm disappointed that this seems to be a retread of the Lost Scrolls. (I was hoping for something that encompassed all of Aang's life up until he had his kids, with more original material. Also, the layout looking more like Aang and his friends had actually compiled it by hand.)
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« Reply #63 on: Sep 07, 2015 03:19 pm »

I'm curious if this is just a rephrasing of the kiddie guide books that were published during the cartoon's run.

It is. Most of this stuff was taken from the Nickelodeon website and the commentaries that would appear in the pop ups during the show.
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« Reply #64 on: Sep 07, 2015 03:39 pm »

I'm curious if this is just a rephrasing of the kiddie guide books that were published during the cartoon's run.

To be fair, those books were informative and entertaining even if they were targeted primarily with kids in mind. If this book manages to give some insightful new information to the mythos and world of the Avatar, I do not mind if it is somewhat kiddy.
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« Reply #65 on: Sep 08, 2015 02:40 am »

Aang's face on that first preview page... kinda scares me. Those pupils just don't look right.
Do you have something against the "I'm going to murder you and your children!" look? Cheesy
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« Reply #66 on: Sep 08, 2015 06:07 pm »

I'm curious if this is just a rephrasing of the kiddie guide books that were published during the cartoon's run.

To be fair, those books were informative and entertaining even if they were targeted primarily with kids in mind. If this book manages to give some insightful new information to the mythos and world of the Avatar, I do not mind if it is somewhat kiddy.

I don't mind it being kiddie, but I'm trying to figure out the comparative amount of info from the Lost Scrolls books, and whether everything being reworded to be first-person-Aang means actual new writing or simply retrofitting existing writing.

It's a Loopy thing.
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« Reply #67 on: Sep 08, 2015 10:55 pm »

Man, if it is really going to be a summary of all 3 seasons of ATLA, I'm not inclined to buy it. This is almost the level as "The Lost Scrolls" series.
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« Reply #68 on: Oct 25, 2015 03:48 am »

So, now that the book definitely should be out, has anyone gotten a better look at it?
I have seen a few pictures across the net, and it might not be quite as boring as the previews indicated. While the text doesn’t seem all that special it does seem to have some interesting extras such as posters and postcards. I thing I saw something about a postcard from Ba Sing Se, a poster of the wanterbending scroll, a theater poster and a poster with various types of animals among others.
http://fineaswineatdinnertime.tumblr.com/post/131842765197/madystacy-some-highlights-from-atla-legacy
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« Reply #69 on: Oct 27, 2015 10:44 am »

So...I've read Legacy. I'm disappointed because it really is just a recap of the show's story with some loose things here and there. The fold out waterbending scroll and posters with Chinese characters were nice, but i disliked the Fire Nation Royal Palace postcard (it's just an image from the show with font over it) and Ember Islands Players poster with English writing. I mean, they're supposed to be objects that Aang has collected on his journey in universe, and the English takes away from that i think. It's a little distracting, especially with some memorabilia having Chinese characters and others not.  There was a poster for the play that Sokka holds up in the show; why couldn't they have used that one? I guess they lost the file? The flier for The Jasmine Dragon was in English too, but the font used fit in with the world and the original artwork was nice so that was less distracting. Same goes for the Ba Sing Se postcard; nice original artwork - looks a bit like watercolour pencil.

I honestly wanted something encompassing all of Aang's life, perhaps serving as a way of connecting the comics to the show's continuity, seeing as how they are supposed to be the official continuation of the series. (I have my problems with 'em, but that's what they're intended to do.) There are a few references to The Search in the Fire Nation Royal Family tree (which just goes back to Sozin with no inclusion of Iroh's Mystery Wife or Lu Ten, cuz i guess his son just wasn't noteworthy enough for Aang to picture him, though he is very briefly mentioned- poor Iroh, his bloodline didn't just end, it was forgotten entirely!) with bullet points under Azulon stating 'poisoned by his son Ozai' and beside Ozai stating 'guilty of patricide,' and of course the Wallflower Ursa being 'forced to marry Ozai by Fire Lord Azulon.' There's also a section on The Fog of Lost Souls despite it not being featured in ATLA proper (i guess because Zhao ended up there) so Aang eventually found out what that was. Aside from those things there's no references to anything outside the show's timeline besides Ty Lee apparently helping Aang out many times after joining the Kyoshi Warriors, and Katara and Aang getting married and having the kids of course. (Also Toph is Auntie Toph - that's cute. No Uncle Zuko though.) There's nothing about the formation of Republic City or anything like that.

The retelling of ATLA is pretty much faithful to canon, but i did take issue with Toph's bio. Apparently, Toph's parents kept her hidden away because they were 'ashamed of her blindness.' Nope. Nopeity nope nope.

The original art is, for the most part, pretty lackluster. I liked the way they drew Appa in the original illustrations, but characters' faces were off model. Aang's especially. In the Royal Family tree Iroh is drawn as he is in the show but missing any forehead wrinkles which looks really weird. (Azula has no makeup and looks bored as heck in her picture lol) The cover's art is undeniably the most quality artwork here.

Aside from the recap stuff, there's the letter Aang wrote to Tenzin at the beginning shown in the preview, and a longer letter from Katara also to Tenzin. There's also information about the four nations straight from the Lost Scrolls (the seasons of the respective nations, their flags etc) and comic strips of the Hundred Year War, (starting with Sozin and Roku's friendship and ending with Aang and Zuko together) of when Toph 'first showed your dad who's boss around here' as narrated by the former Blind Bandit herself, and of a (somewhat inaccurate) retelling of Sokka's destruction of the Fire Nation air fleet in the season finale with him as narrator, complete with him being the coolest guy around. (Toph - 'Sokka, you're such an amazing leader!') There's also advice for Tenzin sprinkled throughout.

Basically, it's a perfectly serviceable children's book. There's nothing new to see here - it is 'The History Most People Already Know' - but kids would enjoy it just fine. The language isn't that simple and it doesn't feel patronising, which makes me wonder how on Earth a five year old is supposed to read it with words like 'clandestine', but hey, maybe Tenzin's a smart kid. (Aang does acknowledge that Tenzin won't understand most of it, to be fair.) I do wonder why it is addressed to just Tenzin, since most of this stuff could have been given to Bumi or Kya no problem. Aang, your favourtism is showing. Aang, y u such a bad father.

As an older fan (15 lol) it is slightly disappointing cuz i was hoping for some new mythos. It's not bad. I enjoyed reading it. Would have been better if it had been longer with a better guest artist and actual worldbuilding, but perfectly functional and alright for a younger audience.  Tongue

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« Reply #70 on: Oct 27, 2015 09:07 pm »

Do you know how much of the Lost Scrolls are reprinted here? I'm curious if having both volumes in redundant.
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« Reply #71 on: Oct 31, 2015 10:45 pm »

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« Reply #72 on: Nov 01, 2015 04:56 am »

Do you know how much of the Lost Scrolls are reprinted here? I'm curious if having both volumes in redundant.
Thankfully, not a whole lot.

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I got the book and read it. It is essentially a book Aang and his friends write for Tenzin for as a gift for his 5th birthday.

I am very relieved that the retelling didn't start chronologically from episodes 1 to 61 or I would have been extremely bored. They focus on one nation and bending at a time, telling the tales relevant to the subject before moving on. So if you're not familiar with ATLA, you'll be a little confused as the story Aang writes jumps here and there throughout ATLA's timeline. However, I would assume anyone who buys this book would know the ATLA story already so they won't be too confused.

So if you're familiar with ATLA and TLOK, you know Aang dies (duh) before TLOK so reading Aang's rather heartfelt words to Tenzin throughout the book feels rather bittersweet and might make you teary eyed. The black and white Kataang family photo showcased in TLOK is also placed at the end of the book and I had some feels.

The "artist that Aang hired" to draw in the book for Tenzin's 5th birthday though... I am not impressed with the art. Hama is depicted as some younger middle aged black haired woman. What huh wut who the heck greenlit this?! The art feels like it wants to follow the style found in ancient ink-wash scrolls but it doesn't work. The details on the character's faces can be barely there at times and it's just annoying and not to mention a little creepy when you can't see the irises on the character's eyes.

And why is Azula placed before Zuko in the Fire Nation family tree?? She's the younger sister, not the firstborn! Ozai is also confirmed to be guilty of patricide in the family tree. I found that amusing that some of the ATLA comic elements are in this too. Unrelated to the FN royals but Ty Lee is shown to be still part of the Kyoshi warriors. No mention of Mai anywhere though. :/ No Izumi either.

I am also a little irritated by the so called "souvenirs" that Aang collected on his journey to give to Tenzin. Don't get me wrong, they are very cool posters/postcards but they are always attached to random pages throughout the book and you have to gently pull them up to read the text that they are obscuring. It would have been better if these "souvenirs" were all consolidated at the end of the book so I don't have to worry about random pieces of paper falling out as I flip the pages. And like what Fieryfurnace said, it would have been more "authentic" if the writings on the little trinkets were in Chinese and not English.

And lol at Sokka's inaccurate retelling of Sozin's comet. It was funny. Still nothing on whether Sokka married Suki. C'mon! =(

Oh, and Tui is finally confirmed to be the Moon Spirit and La is Ocean Spirit. We can put that lengthy discussion to rest now. =P
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« Reply #73 on: Nov 01, 2015 07:52 am »

And lol at Sokka's inaccurate retelling of Sozin's comet. It was funny. Still nothing on whether Sokka married Suki. C'mon! =(

Actually, it is implied that they weren't together by the time the book was written. According to Suki's bubble, she is the leader of the Kyoshi Warrior, and she and Sokka were an amazing team together.
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« Reply #74 on: Nov 01, 2015 08:26 am »

And lol at Sokka's inaccurate retelling of Sozin's comet. It was funny. Still nothing on whether Sokka married Suki. C'mon! =(

Actually, it is implied that they weren't together by the time the book was written. According to Suki's bubble, she is the leader of the Kyoshi Warrior, and she and Sokka were an amazing team together.

This was the logic people were using to argue that Toph was dead back in Book 1, though ("Hiroshi said 'not even your renowned mother could bend a metal so pure,' not 'not even your renowned mother can bend a metal so pure,' so she's probably not alive anymore"), and we all know how that turned out.  My guess is that the latter of the two things you mentioned was referring to the Hundred Year War specifically.
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