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« Reply #200 on: Jun 22, 2014 06:27 am »

I disagree, I like this episode a lot.

AAAAAAND THEEEEEEEEEEEEN?

What? What "and then"? You mean after this? I loved the season after the Sting. I thought it was on par with Atla and better than whole Book Water and a few episodes in the rest of the seasons.
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« Reply #201 on: Jun 22, 2014 06:35 am »

Your whole opinion until you edited was, 'no'. Now you've edited!

Dialogue seemed fine to me.

ahem,

"Hello, Tonraq! Looking for ME?

 "Brother! I'm too strong for you!"

"YOU'RE NO BROTHER OF MINE. YOU BETRAYED ME. YOU HAD ME BANISHED"

"Yes! I did!"

"YOU. ARE NOT. THE TRUE CHIEF."

"YES. I AM. AND YOU WILL BOW TO ME!"

"Now that I've defeated you. YOUR DAUGHTER IS NEXT!"



BLLLLLLUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH






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« Reply #202 on: Jun 22, 2014 06:37 am »

I seriously see NOTHING wrong with that dialogue. And calm down, I'm sorry if I offended you.
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« Reply #203 on: Jun 22, 2014 06:39 am »

Everyone behave or I will temp lock this thread for all parties to cool off.
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« Reply #204 on: Jun 22, 2014 06:41 am »

Um? I'm not mad? Not even close? And that dialogue was cheesyMcCheesesauce. With an extra side of ham.
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« Reply #205 on: Jun 22, 2014 10:49 am »

Actually Djinn is right, in my opinion. What made it worse was that Unalaq's voice was extra-nasally the entire time.
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« Reply #206 on: Jun 22, 2014 01:03 pm »

It's really Unalaq's dialog which is the most ridiculous in that sequence. He talks like a petulant child who's about to take down his sandbox nemesis.
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« Reply #207 on: Jun 22, 2014 01:09 pm »

@djinn: Yeah, the movers were generally really good. Easily the funniest jokes all season, in my opinion.

Just... my soul weeps for whatever "arc" Bolin supposedly had. Also, I love how Varrick conveniently lost because his stooge blabbed. Didn't Varrick send a random dude to do business with the triads six episodes ago to avoid this very thing? Heh.

But, I do think the next episodes are better. Smiley
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« Reply #208 on: Jun 22, 2014 01:16 pm »

Why must my opinion differ so, everytime! I seriously thought this was one of the coolest Unalaq moments. The way the ruthlessly fights and tries to kill his brother and proclaims that he will do the same to his daughter. I just thought it was epic.
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« Reply #209 on: Jun 22, 2014 01:17 pm »

The fight was cool, very cool;  his nasally voice and the dialogue , however, were not.
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« Reply #210 on: Jun 22, 2014 01:19 pm »

The fight was cool, very cool;  his nasally voice, however, and dialogue was not.

I liked the dialogue too.
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« Reply #211 on: Jun 22, 2014 01:24 pm »

I had no qualms with the dialogue. Especially considering it's the moustache twirler who wants to try unleash eternal darkness on the world, while beating up his brother, after punching resistance fighters to a pulp. Honestly, the expressive delivery almost emphasised it for me (plus Zuckerman's haunting music. That cello).
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« Reply #212 on: Jun 22, 2014 01:25 pm »

I had no qualms with the dialogue. Especially considering it's the moustache twirler who wants to try unleash eternal darkness on the world, while beating up his brother, after punching resistance fighters to a pulp. Honestly, the expressive delivery almost emphasised it for me (plus Zuckerman's haunting music. That cello).

Yeah, this is exactly how I felt too. *high fives Spiritwisperer*

In the end, to each their own, guys  Cheesy
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« Reply #213 on: Jun 22, 2014 01:35 pm »

Maybe it was the emphasis on me in "Hello, Tonraq! Looking for me?" that was probably not required.
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« Reply #214 on: Jun 22, 2014 01:39 pm »

Unalaq is kinda a manipulative prick. He seems to enjoy theatrical delivery of lines.

Honestly, so do I Cheesy that's why I liked the goblin king in The hobbit.
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« Reply #215 on: Jun 22, 2014 02:30 pm »

Why must my opinion differ so, everytime! I seriously thought this was one of the coolest Unalaq moments.
Is it hard to do? That's the only confrontation that he fights and wins all by himself without needing his children or Vaatu to bail him out. Not to mention all the embarrassing ways he's lost over the season. He hasn't been a very impressive character overall.

That's maybe the big problem of that book : the two big bads are punks, not scary in the slightest and easily defeated overall. Getting that after how effective Amon was and how terrified Korra was of him, that's a big letdown.
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« Reply #216 on: Jun 22, 2014 02:34 pm »

I don't think Unalaq was a great character, nor a good villain. I just thought THIS was one of his coolest moments and there aren't many.

And I would hardly call Vaatu a punk.
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« Reply #217 on: Jun 22, 2014 02:40 pm »

Yeah, that's one of his coolest moments. Is it really all that cool compared to other cool moments? Hey. The rivalry between him and Tonraq is half-assed to the point that I don't understand why we had a fight at all and Tonraq's side of the fight in underwhelming.

And I would hardly call Vaatu a punk.
Why not? Dude needs help to untangle himself from his "sibling" and once the basics of the Avatar universe are set (so when the Avatar is "born"), he becomes like a fly for the Avatar to swat away and lock in a tree. And after that, he forfeits all his principles and his dismissal of humans just so that he can level the playing field. That's a punk!
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« Reply #218 on: Jun 22, 2014 02:41 pm »

And I would hardly call Vaatu a punk.
Why not? Dude needs help to untangle himself from his "sibling" and once the basics of the Avatar universe are set (so when the Avatar is "born"), he becomes like a fly for the Avatar to swat away and lock in a tree. And after that, he forfeits all his principles and his dismissal of humans just so that he can level the playing field. That's a punk!

Okay, whatever you say. I liked him and thought he was very interesting and intimidating and I enjoyed his presence as one of the ancient existences in the world.

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Is it really all that cool compared to other cool moments?

I'm not comparing anything to it, but of course to me, there were far more cool moments in Season two. Sheesh.
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« Reply #219 on: Jun 23, 2014 04:09 pm »

I'm just here to throw in my lot with the people who get bored when Avatar characters start spitting out dialogue that doesn't have any actual character in it.
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« Reply #220 on: Jun 23, 2014 06:18 pm »

I'm just here to throw in my lot with the people who get bored when Avatar characters start spitting out dialogue that doesn't have any actual character in it.

HELLO, LOOPY. LOOKING FOR ME?
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« Reply #221 on: Jun 23, 2014 08:02 pm »

Phoenix Ozai was quite cheesy in ATLA too. I'm not surprised by Unalaq's quattro formaggi cheesiness as well.
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« Reply #222 on: Jun 23, 2014 08:18 pm »

Phoenix Ozai was quite cheesy in ATLA too. I'm not surprised by Unalaq's quattro formaggi cheesiness as well.
My Icon is proof of that. With some honesty though, I really don't find a lot of dialogue people refer to as cheesy all that bad. In flection sometimes could use work and yes some of it is over used, but I'd likely same something similar in that situation. Aside from that it is better than most real world dialogue in fights which generally results in a lot of sulking. just some thoughts.
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« Reply #223 on: Jun 23, 2014 09:02 pm »

Oh, Ozai was definitely cheesy, but Mark Hamill hammed up so spectacularly, I was able to enjoy it. I also didn't consider Ozai to have any character, so the ham filled a gap. Unalaq was actually supposed to have character, so it didn't really work for me with him.
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« Reply #224 on: Jun 23, 2014 09:06 pm »

He had a concept (a villain immersed in spirituality) of that there is no doubt, but I am not entirely convinced he had character...or that he was even supposed too, for the matter.
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