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« on: Jul 31, 2012 10:19 am »

Sorry if this topic has been done before. I did a search and didn't find it.

I was wondering if we could develop some sort of timeline for when each episode takes place. Naming the season an episode occurred in shouldn't be hard but I wanted something more specific such as the month, or maybe even which week of the month, a particular episode or event took place in. I just wanted to clear up any confusion as to how much time passed since event A and event B took place all the way through the end of the series, if possible. I understand we don't know very much about timing through the ~10 months the story took place in and that as a result much of this will be guesswork. But I think we can develop a moderately accurate timeline through the hints in the show.

Because ATLA is Chinese based and China is in the Northern Hemisphere I would assume that's how ATLA operates in terms of the seasons, so the seasons look like this:


Winter: December 21 (Winter solstice) - March 20
Spring: March 21 - June 20
Summer: June 21 (Summer solstice) - September 20
Autumn: September 21 - December 20


I can update this post as we get more agreement on each episode. I believe this link can come in handy.



Episodes:

101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
113
114
115
116
117
118
119
120

201
202
203
204
205
206
207
208
209
210
211
212
213
214
215
216
217
218
219
220

301
302
303
304
305
306
307
308
309
310
311
312
313
314
315
316
317
318
319
320
321
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« Reply #1 on: Jul 31, 2012 12:14 pm »

General How said in The Guru "General Fong's base will serve as the launching point for the attack. In exactly two months, the army and navy will invade the Fire Nation on the Day of Black Sun."

Katara said Aang was out for a few weeks in 301, so episodes 301-309 take place in about a month.

So,

219- June 1
301- c.July 1
309- July 28-July 31
310- August 1.
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« Reply #2 on: Jul 31, 2012 12:35 pm »

^ Nice.

I also just re-watched The Chase [208] and Spring had JUST started, says Aang. So 208 takes place within the first week of Spring, which could be anywhere from March 21-27.

I'll update the original post when we have a little more info.
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« Reply #3 on: Jul 31, 2012 01:22 pm »

I recall 107 starting two days before the winter solstice, so-

107- 19-20 of December
108- 21 of December
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« Reply #4 on: Jul 31, 2012 01:44 pm »

The comet was to arrive at Summer's end so 321 takes place in probably the last few weeks of summer, I assume. That would mean anywhere from September 1-21.

Also, in 210, it's mentioned that the solar eclipse would come in a "few months" and we know the eclipse is on August 1. But that doesn't really tell us much on the date of 210.

In 108, Shyu tells the Gaang that "a few weeks ago" the eyes of Roku's statue began to glow. This occurred on the day of the winter solstice, which as mentioned above is December 21. A few usually means 3, sometimes 4. So that means Aang's return to the world, in other words episode 101, occurred anywhere from November 24 - December 1. However, had it been 4 weeks I think Shyu would have said "month" as opposed to "few weeks". So I think he means 3 weeks, which would mean 101 occurred on December 1, give or take a couple days.
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« Reply #5 on: Jul 31, 2012 01:58 pm »

General How said in The Guru "General Fong's base will serve as the launching point for the attack. In exactly two months, the army and navy will invade the Fire Nation on the Day of Black Sun."

Katara said Aang was out for a few weeks in 301, so episodes 301-309 take place in about a month.

So,

219- June 1
301- c.July 1
309- July 28-July 31
310- August 1.
301 couldn't have been July 1st because 306=June 21st, the summer solstice.
310 and 311 are August both 1st.
220 must have been June 2nd.
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« Reply #6 on: Jul 31, 2012 02:27 pm »

In 201, Iroh says he and Zuko had been floating on drift wood for three weeks. They'd been without their ship since episode 120 so it makes sense that 201 occurs three weeks after episode 120.

But I'm not sure when 120 occurs. In 118 Yue turns sixteen and it's noted that her birthday is in late winter. I also am unsure as to how much time passed between 118 and 120.
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« Reply #7 on: Jul 31, 2012 06:06 pm »

Katara said Aang was out for a few weeks. I didn't take it as more than a month. We don't know how much time passed between all the Season 3 episodes. I didn't think 307 and 308 took just six days. Though that is confirmed.

The Runaway takes place over four days. The Puppet Master takes three days. Though the Summer Solstice sometimes is in the 20th.

Or, it could be that The Puppet Master starts at the same night The Runaway ends. In that case, it could be the 21st.
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« Reply #8 on: Aug 01, 2012 01:18 pm »

The comet was to arrive at Summer's end so 321 takes place in probably the last couple weeks of summer, I assume. That would mean anywhere from September 8-21.

Also, in 210, it's mentioned that the solar eclipse would come in a "few months" and we know the eclipse is on August 1. But that doesn't really tell us much on the date of 210.

In 108, Shyu tells the Gaang that "a few weeks ago" the eyes of Roku's statue began to glow. This occurred on the day of the winter solstice, which as mentioned above is December 21. A few usually means 3, sometimes 4. So that means Aang's return to the world, in other words episode 101, occurred anywhere from November 24 - December 1. However, had it been 4 weeks I think Shyu would have said "month" as opposed to "few weeks". So I think he means 3 weeks, which would mean 101 occurred on December 1, give or take a couple days.
But the eyes of Roku's statue in the Fire Temple didn't glow in 101, when Aang emerged from the iceberg. They became to glow in episode 103. When Aang opened the door to the sanctuary, his presence made all the Avatar statues eyes glow, not just in the Southern Air Temple, but in Avatar temples in all four nations.
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« Reply #9 on: Aug 01, 2012 05:28 pm »

So I'd give or take a few days. Anyway,
What we know for sure-
219- June 1
306- July 20
307-Either July 20-23 or 21-24
309- Either July 24-26 or 25-27
309- July 28-July 31
310- August 1

I'm thinking it's the latter in both cases, but it could be the former.
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« Reply #10 on: Aug 01, 2012 05:42 pm »

^The summer solstice is JUNE 21st. "The Avatar and The Firelord" takes place on June 21st.

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Roku: Aang, it's time you learned my history with Fire Lord Sozin. You need to understand how the war began, if you want to know how to end it. Meet me on my home island on the day of the summer solstice.

306=June 21st.
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« Reply #11 on: Aug 01, 2012 06:26 pm »

So I'd give or take a few days. Anyway,
What we know for sure-
219- June 1
306- July 20
307-Either July 20-23 or 21-24
309- Either July 24-26 or 25-27
309- July 28-July 31
310- August 1

I'm thinking it's the latter in both cases, but it could be the former.

How do we know 219 was June 1st?
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« Reply #12 on: Aug 01, 2012 06:33 pm »

^
General How said in The Guru "General Fong's base will serve as the launching point for the attack. In exactly two months, the army and navy will invade the Fire Nation on the Day of Black Sun."

And if 306 is JUNE 21, that makes the time between 306-309 episodes more than a month, even more strange.

Aang must have been under for like a week in order for this to work.

Let's just agree Mike and Bryan are really really really bad with dates.

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« Reply #13 on: Aug 01, 2012 06:39 pm »

Well considering that it is canon within the show that the episode takes place on the solstice, then that's the date it takes place. We don't know that they actually wrote that timeline. Regardless, 306 takes place on June 21st.
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« Reply #14 on: Aug 01, 2012 07:53 pm »

i'm glad you brought this topic up TyLuko4Ever,

i have been wondering when the events in A:TLA take place,

However, i dont think i would be much help, as i am pretty bad with dates & calendars .. =(
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« Reply #15 on: Aug 01, 2012 10:35 pm »

But the eyes of Roku's statue in the Fire Temple didn't glow in 101, when Aang emerged from the iceberg. They became to glow in episode 103. When Aang opened the door to the sanctuary, his presence made all the Avatar statues eyes glow, not just in the Southern Air Temple, but in Avatar temples in all four nations.

Yes, you're right. The statue of previous avatars began to glow when Aang awakened his Avatar spirit in 103. This means that episode 103 (as opposed to episode 101) occurred on December 1st, give or take a couple days.
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« Reply #16 on: Aug 02, 2012 12:58 am »

We can probably figure out some of the timing by checking the episodes with full moons.  There is, of course, a full moon during "The Siege of the North."  There is also a full moon at the end of "The Blind Bandit."  There is one during "The Puppetmaster," and during "The Southern Raiders."  Does anyone know of any others?
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« Reply #17 on: Aug 02, 2012 01:17 am »

The full moon is a bad indicator. There are a few episodes that have full moons not long after episodes that also had full moons.
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« Reply #18 on: Aug 02, 2012 05:16 am »

The Library [210] spans a "few days". In 211, someone in the Misty Palms Oasis says that the Gaang had passed through a few days ago. And 211 begins immediately after 210 ends, so there's that.

211 seems to span about 24 hours as the sun set once midway through the episode and ended the next day. The next episode, 212, probably starts within a week, I'm assuming.

In 216 (Appa's Lost Days), it's mentioned that Appa was captured four weeks ago. So four weeks pass in between episodes 210 and 216.

In 217 Smellerbee says Jet was kidnapped by the Dai Li a "couple of weeks ago". Since he was kidnapped in 214, we can assume that 2 weeks pass in between episodes 214 and 217.
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« Reply #19 on: Aug 02, 2012 11:35 am »

. . . I think it's worth mentioning in passing that birthdays must fall somewhere between the day of the year the series started and the day it ended. Neither Zuko, Sokka, Katara, nor Aang ever turned a year older even though Aang said it's been a year- implying that it's been almost, but not a full, true year.

So does this indicate that it was significantly less than a year, as in very late fall to early/mid summer?
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« Reply #20 on: Aug 02, 2012 01:10 pm »

The full moon is a bad indicator. There are a few episodes that have full moons not long after episodes that also had full moons.

If the full moon is a bad indicator, then we might be forced to also say that the dates of the solstices are bad indicators as well.  Because a world that has more than one full moon a month may not have the solstices on December 21/22 or June 21/22 either. 

This exercise may, in other words, be a lost cause...
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« Reply #21 on: Aug 02, 2012 06:35 pm »

We found out the first episode took place in late November, and the series finale takes place in late August. So that's 9 months. I just thoght that monks didn't pay attention to birthdays, and that the Water Tribes had other things to take care of than remembering the date of birth. Zuko and Toph probably had birthdays before they appeared in the show.
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« Reply #22 on: Aug 02, 2012 07:18 pm »

This exercise may, in other words, be a lost cause...
I think it is. All we really need to know is that the entire series spans about 10 months. 
Though the full moon thing is just an art choice because it's more dramatic and/or something that was clearly not too focused on. I wouldn't rule out solstice dates because of some art choices.
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« Reply #23 on: Aug 03, 2012 02:25 am »

. . . I think it's worth mentioning in passing that birthdays must fall somewhere between the day of the year the series started and the day it ended. Neither Zuko, Sokka, Katara, nor Aang ever turned a year older even though Aang said it's been a year- implying that it's been almost, but not a full, true year.

So does this indicate that it was significantly less than a year, as in very late fall to early/mid summer?

Well, it's mentioned that Sozin's comet would arrive at the end of the summer and I fully believe the show lasted ~10 months. I guess it's just by chance that most of the characters' birthdays fall within the two months of the year that were not shown.

And like you mentioned, Aang said it had been close enough to a full year.



I too believe the creators became too comfortable with the full moon, and I do believe it came more often than once a month (unless it's us that are incorrect). But like aa623 said, I think that may have been for dramatic effects/setting moods, etc. As of yet, I don't have enough reason to believe that the Avatarverse doesn't follow a typical calender year. From what we've gathered so far, it's making sense in terms of how much time is passing, though particular dates aren't entirely clear. That's why I mentioned that labeling dates would be mostly guesswork. But I still believe we can accurately decide, to an extent, how much time is passing in between the episodes.
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« Reply #24 on: Aug 04, 2012 09:14 pm »

We found out the first episode took place in late November, and the series finale takes place in late August. So that's 9 months. I just thoght that monks didn't pay attention to birthdays, and that the Water Tribes had other things to take care of than remembering the date of birth. Zuko and Toph probably had birthdays before they appeared in the show.
Water Tribe folk seem to care about birthdays. Yue in the NWT celebrated her 16th birthday, and it was mentioned in episode 115 that (Southern) Water Tribe boys go through a coming-of-age ritual that features ice dodging when they turn 14, so they obviously pay attention to age.
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