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« Reply #825 on: May 29, 2012 03:24 pm »

Anyway, i liked the part when Lin pulled her foot out like Toph Smiley

That part was way awesome. I'm wondering why all the metalbending policemen don't always go around barefoot though. If they could all (constantly) sense the vibrations in the ground like Toph, they probably wouldn't have been ambushed by the equalists so easily at the bending championships.

Probably for safety purposes. One rogue fireball that they don't see coming could hit their bare feet, causing serious injury in the middle of battle.
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« Reply #826 on: May 29, 2012 08:19 pm »

I look at the whole Mudbending thing like this.

Person A: The glass is half full.
Person B: The glass is almost empty.

Mud can be looked at as wet earth or as dirty water.

It's really not the same as Lavabending or Cloudbending.

Lavabending falls under the jurisidiction of Earthbending because it makes no sense for . But a Firebender can render Lavabending useless or make it more dangerous by bending the heat of the lava.

Same thing with Cloudbending. Cloudbending falls under the jurisdiction of Waterbending but Airbenders can manipulate clouds around almost as well as a Waterbender could.

In order to Lavabend, I believe it's a hybrid between Firebending and Waterbending so that means that only a fully realized Avatar can do it, and in ATLA only Mr.Mystery(aka unnamed fire Avatar),Kyoshi and Roku did it.
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« Reply #827 on: May 29, 2012 08:36 pm »

In order to Lavabend, I believe it's a hybrid between Firebending and Waterbending so that means that only a fully realized Avatar can do it, and in ATLA only Mr.Mystery(aka unnamed fire Avatar),Kyoshi and Roku did it.
You mean a hybrid between Firebending and Earthbending right? There's no water in lava. It would make no sense for it to be related to Waterbending, maybe the form but no Waterbending actually occurs.
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« Reply #828 on: May 29, 2012 08:40 pm »

In order to Lavabend, I believe it's a hybrid between Firebending and Waterbending so that means that only a fully realized Avatar can do it, and in ATLA only Mr.Mystery(aka unnamed fire Avatar),Kyoshi and Roku did it.
You mean a hybrid between Firebending and Earthbending right? There's no water in lava.

That's what I was about to say.

Basically...I'm sure a Firebender could trigger a volcanic eruption and I'm also sure an Earthbender can do. Manipulating it probably would call for Earthbending alone. If not then, Lavabending would require both bending arts...aka which is why the Avatar would be the only one to do it...
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« Reply #829 on: May 29, 2012 08:51 pm »

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« Reply #830 on: May 29, 2012 10:52 pm »

In order to Lavabend, I believe it's a hybrid between Firebending and Waterbending so that means that only a fully realized Avatar can do it, and in ATLA only Mr.Mystery(aka unnamed fire Avatar),Kyoshi and Roku did it.
You mean a hybrid between Firebending and Earthbending right? There's no water in lava.

That's what I was about to say.

Basically...I'm sure a Firebender could trigger a volcanic eruption and I'm also sure an Earthbender can do. Manipulating it probably would call for Earthbending alone. If not then, Lavabending would require both bending arts...aka which is why the Avatar would be the only one to do it...

Or competent earth and firebenders, which rules out Mako and Bolin. So we'll probably never really see it anyway.
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« Reply #831 on: May 30, 2012 06:01 am »

Lol^ that is so true. Just another example of why knowing how to fight fro comPetition is not the same as actually knowing how to fight.
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« Reply #832 on: May 31, 2012 06:29 pm »

I can totally accept the mechs.  Considering we had rather advanced tanks in A:TLA, and the apparently accelerated rate of technological progress in the world, I don't think it requires much in the way of suspending disbelief.

Good to see some great development for Asami.

Only two things really irked me: 1) Bolin could earthbend in and out of the chamber, but Lin couldn't...? and 2) There was no agency involved when Korra overheard Sato's phone conversation... it was pure coincidence that she had to use the upstairs bathroom.  But then she hounded that lead, so I guess that kind of makes up for it.

Also, Bryke was totally playing Battleship and landed a huge salvo on the L.O.K. Makorra.  If it wasn't listing badly already, it's going under.

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« Reply #833 on: Jun 01, 2012 10:03 am »

I can totally accept the mechs.  Considering we had rather advanced tanks in A:TLA, and the apparently accelerated rate of technological progress in the world, I don't think it requires much in the way of suspending disbelief.

Good to see some great development for Asami.

Only two things really irked me: 1) Bolin could earthbend in and out of the chamber, but Lin couldn't...?

Yeah...like Lin was going to run away from a fight.

No but seriously, Lin catapaulted herself into the air with Earthbending. That's how she ended up all in that one mecha's grill.

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and 2) There was no agency involved when Korra overheard Sato's phone conversation... it was pure coincidence that she had to use the upstairs bathroom.  But then she hounded that lead, so I guess that kind of makes up for it.

I agree. If it had not of been Korra it would've been Bolin...which would make for an interesting change of events.

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Also, Bryke was totally playing Battleship and landed a huge salvo on the L.O.K. Makorra.  If it wasn't listing badly already, it's going under.

Yeah...S.O.S Makorra is in trouble.

In order to Lavabend, I believe it's a hybrid between Firebending and Waterbending so that means that only a fully realized Avatar can do it, and in ATLA only Mr.Mystery(aka unnamed fire Avatar),Kyoshi and Roku did it.
You mean a hybrid between Firebending and Earthbending right? There's no water in lava.

That's what I was about to say.

Basically...I'm sure a Firebender could trigger a volcanic eruption and I'm also sure an Earthbender can do. Manipulating it probably would call for Earthbending alone. If not then, Lavabending would require both bending arts...aka which is why the Avatar would be the only one to do it...

Or competent earth and firebenders, which rules out Mako and Bolin. So we'll probably never really see it anyway.



This is so true.
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« Reply #834 on: Jun 01, 2012 11:00 am »

Only two things really irked me: 1) Bolin could earthbend in and out of the chamber, but Lin couldn't...? a

I wondered about that part as well.... I mean, seriously, When it comes to comparison Lin vs Bo Lin, sure who should win, yes?

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Seems M&B cheated to have the plot they wanted. Tongue
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« Reply #835 on: Jun 01, 2012 12:53 pm »

Why would Lin want to leave the chamber?

She's a cop.

It's her job to uphold the law and put homegrown terrorists behind bars.
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« Reply #836 on: Jun 01, 2012 02:12 pm »

^I agree with that.

Chief wasn't going to leave a fight. Period.

In hindsight, it may not have been the best idea, hence her later guilt.
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« Reply #837 on: Jun 01, 2012 06:53 pm »

I liked this episode, though the racing was kind of boring, just there to establish more of how awesome Asami is.  It's funny how much of a 3rd wheel Bolin was, living in that mansion with Mako and Asami, but they didn't seem to mind at all.  That was cool.  Loved the scene where Mako and Asami are enjoying her record collection while Bolin pigs out on fruit.  And of course who's the first one to scream when the cops bust in?
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« Reply #838 on: Jul 27, 2012 01:18 am »

I loved this show but I really hated Episode 7(the equalist factory episode) and episode 9(the flashback episode) Here's why.

-Hiroshi Sato- Why is he an equalist?Huh He owns one of the most powerful corporations IN THE WORLD and he would give up his good name for a terrorist in just one city. He says his house was robbed and his wife killed. Isn't that I financial and political problems seeing the poverty in the city? If his wife was killed by the cops or he was taxed more for being a non bender it would make more sense. Sato is one of the most powerful men in the world and he can't influence laws? Sato is like the John Rockefeller/Henry Ford of this world and they believed in a (strongest human would be the top in the world) is hard to beleive has a problem with benders. Its like Ford being a socialist. Yes Ford did like Hitler's Nazi party but it was a nationalist and race thing, and benders are not a race. Bending fuels industry, why would Sato be against that?

The stupidity of Lin- Lin is one of my favorite charachters but I hated her in episode 7. She had disgraced herself to Tarrlok by failing to stop the Equalist attack in the previous episode and this was the episode to redeem herself. She finds the Equalist factory and her cops get captured. Instead of calling REINFORCEMENTS to clear the factory she RESIGNS!!! Finding the Equalist factory is a HUGE SUCCESS and she redeemed herself.

We can assume Lin doesn't have the autority to summon more cops, but Tenzin does. What does Tenzin does for the next 2 episodes? Nothing. Why doesn't Tenzin tell the council about this Huh?? Its not like Tenzin was hoping for peace. The factory is not even in the city and has no innocent civilians in it. The workers there know for damn sure that those weapons were made for destruction.

Lets assume Tenzin did send cops but failed to clear the factory....hmm if the enemy has tanks, we will use cops to clear it. CALL THE UNITED FORCES!!! the enemy has TANKS. Its a National emergency. If we found T90 tanks being manufactured in New York City for rebels the millitary would be there in minutes. Seeing how the United Forces are a couple days away it wouldn't be dumb to call them rather than wait WEEKS for Hiroshi to pour all those weapons out.

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« Reply #839 on: Jul 27, 2012 01:35 am »

Murder of a loved one is motivation enough for anyone, of any position or at any level of power, to drop everything for the sake of personal revenge.

And the metalbending force is kind of like the SWAT of Republic City. Lin felt it was a personal failure on her part, as well as the attack on the arena, that led to her believing she couldn't fight the equalists effectively while inside the system. Which is why she resigned. In her eyes she did NOT redeem herself.

Tenzin only called the United Forces once he was certain the Equalists were becoming too big for the Police to handle. If he called them earlier about a suspicious factory containing what looked to be tanks but could have easily just been construction machines, well then, that would be seen as him crying wolf by the brass of the United Forces.
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« Reply #840 on: Jul 27, 2012 08:20 am »

His wife being killed is more than enough reason to make him an equalist. I have never heard of anyone saying "My family has been murdered...... but I am still rich, so idgaf."

As for the factory thing, I was also a tad confused about that. Mainly about where Asami got all her stuff from, in episode 8, when moving into Air Temple Island. Her father is a criminal mastermind and her house is sitting on an Equalist stronghold, so they just go waltzing in to gather Asami's things?

What I'm guessing is, although they didn't specifically mention it, the implication is that the factory and the house were cleared out, and that Asami moves in with the Krew not necessarily because she couldn't still live in her house, but because it would be too painful for her to be reminded of her father (I mean, that is THE very first thing she says when she gets to her room on Air Temple Island, so it's extremely plausible). Not to mention she would be much too vulnerable in the mansion (where her father could find her), let alone by herself. 

I doubt that the police had to clear out the factory at all, most likely the Equalists abandoned it as soon as possible. The whole thing had been a setup. They not only knew, but intended for Korra's party to find the secret factory. Since it had been planned from the get go I would assume their intention was to flee, rather than giving the authorities knowledge of a still-operating Equalist stronghold.

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This part almost seems like you're trolling us. In Avatar world being a bender is very much akin to race. While it's obviously not a 1:1 ratio, the prejudice both for non-benders and for benders is highly reminiscent of racism.

As for episode 9, it's not one of my top, top favorites but I like it a lot. The scene at the end with Amon subduing Tarrlok ranks as one of my favorites from the season and that alone makes me rank it at least in the top half out of the season, maybe even the bottom of the top 4.
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« Reply #841 on: Jul 27, 2012 08:32 am »

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« Reply #842 on: Jul 28, 2012 06:25 pm »

I just realized something. (for a several forever months now)

Tarrlok said at his press confernce thingy or whatever: "Cheif Bei Fong was supposed to protect Republic City, but was powerless to stop Amon's attack on the arena..."

So that being said, why the HELL is he personally blaming Bei Fong for something that she had absolutely literally NO CONTROL OVER AT ALL and something that EVERYONE didn't know about: those seemingly new Equalist electro glove things.

Perhaps this is and was how he was able to manipulate people and stuff, by saying things that would initially fly under the radar and until you REALLY started to look closely at them.
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« Reply #843 on: Jul 28, 2012 06:31 pm »

^ Because that was the agreement. Lin was the one who convinced the Council to let the Tournament go on, on condition that she would take personal responsibility if things went wrong.

Things went wrong.
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« Reply #844 on: Jul 28, 2012 07:06 pm »

^ Because that was the agreement. Lin was the one who convinced the Council to let the Tournament go on, on condition that she would take personal responsibility if things went wrong.

Things went wrong.

But it wasn't her fault and there was absolutely nothing that she could do!
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« Reply #845 on: Jul 28, 2012 07:11 pm »

^ Then she shouldn't have taken a risk like that. If you ensure everyone that you can ensure safety and you can't, people will call you out for it.
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« Reply #846 on: Jul 28, 2012 07:25 pm »

But to me that's like saying you're teh chief of police and will keep everyone at some major even safe and then BOOM! a nuclear bomb goes off and you lose your job. how is that the chief's fault? exactly it isn't. if anything it's almost the GOVERNMENT's fault for either not seeing it coming or failing to inform the public of the possible threat.

...now although i will admit, that IS a sort of piss-poor excuse and comparison, but still. but only that, still though, the only people who REALLY got hurt were the Wolfbats. The overall civilian population seemed to remain unharmed. I'd rather have three benders lose their bending (who kind of deserved it anyway) than have possibly COUNTLESS, innocent civilians be injured and/or killed.
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« Reply #847 on: Jul 28, 2012 07:39 pm »

But to me that's like saying you're teh chief of police and will keep everyone at some major even safe and then BOOM! a nuclear bomb goes off and you lose your job. how is that the chief's fault? exactly it isn't. if anything it's almost the GOVERNMENT's fault for either not seeing it coming or failing to inform the public of the possible threat.

If you were the one who pushed for the event to go on despite a major terrorist threat and despite the leaders of the city being against it, then yeah, it is your fault.

Don't forget, the government DID see it coming. They wanted to cancel the finale. If was Lin who convinced them, ensuring them that she could handle it, and then she couldn't. It's poor judgement, at least.


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...now although i will admit, that IS a sort of piss-poor excuse and comparison, but still. but only that, still though, the only people who REALLY got hurt were the Wolfbats. The overall civilian population seemed to remain unharmed. I'd rather have three benders lose their bending (who kind of deserved it anyway) than have possibly COUNTLESS, innocent civilians be injured and/or killed.

I'd rather have no-one get hurt and the event get cancelled. Like, you know, they were planning to do in the first place, until Lin convinced them she knew better.

Also, you make it sound as if the Wolfbats weren't civilians. They were. They were Lin's responsibility as well, and she exposed them to great danger, on purpose, without even warning them about it. Don't you think that's at least a bit irresponsible of a chief of police?
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« Reply #848 on: Jul 28, 2012 08:06 pm »

^ (btw, congrats on 9100 posts [youre welcome] Tongue Wink)

And yeah I suppose that's true...but still...I would have allowed for SOME leniency yet some harsh repercussions from her.
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« Reply #849 on: Jul 28, 2012 08:49 pm »

^ Well, yeah, Tarrlok was taking advantage of the situation. It was obvious from the beginning that he would take the credit if all went well and pass on the blame if things went wrong.

But he was at least decent enough to describe her as 'recovering' rather than fired. He could have humiliated her a lot more had he wanted to (but he probably knew that such a thing wouldn't be appreciated by certain parts of the population, most notably the police force he was trying to control).

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