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« Reply #350 on: Dec 06, 2007 10:39 pm »

I love this episode, the end is so creepy. The scene in the library is so eerie, the green fire was amazing. Even if the creators didn't know it the green fire thing is actually possible, last year in chem we dipped these metal things in different solutions and them placed them in the fire, and as the chemical burned off the fire changed color, from pink to crimson to violet, and even green. I think it was copper iodine that did it, or something with copper. But anyway this episode was great.
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« Reply #351 on: Dec 11, 2007 02:14 pm »

i love when zuko and jet fight Grin
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« Reply #352 on: Dec 27, 2007 11:49 pm »

Dude that Judi lady was so creepy when I first saw it...I had a feeling that she was being hypnotized.  Zuko and Jet's fight was pretty cool too...I was waiting for Zuko to firebend but he did really well without it.
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« Reply #353 on: Dec 27, 2007 11:57 pm »

Ju Dee still gives me nightmares. NO ONE IS THAT HAPPY!! XP

This episode is home to one of my favorite fight scenes: Zuko vs. Jet. I loved it! I just like watching Zuko do anything really. He's my boy; I swear if he was real I'd marry him in a second. XD (omg, I'm in love with a cartoon character! O.o At least it's not Deputy Dog. XD)

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« Reply #354 on: Dec 28, 2007 12:02 am »

I know...when she started talking to the group I knew something was wrong with her...and she just creeped me out when she was always smiling *shudders*
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« Reply #355 on: Jan 04, 2008 03:43 pm »

This episode shows us the corruption in government, espeacially when a country is at war or cold wars. It echoes Orwellian societies, however it mocks current politics... im no political scientist but from my parent's stories, I can see how you can't trust anyone when you are in a country that is at war, especially a non western type!
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« Reply #356 on: Jan 13, 2008 06:32 pm »

This episode is really entertaining but it reminds me of how things were like back then. Weren't their kingdoms that were kinda like this back then too? Where the emperor is just a figurehead and there's a guy who is behind all the decisions of the kingdom. I remmeber reading about it somewhere
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« Reply #357 on: Apr 30, 2008 09:04 pm »

Zuko defeating Jet was awesome, but not unexspected: after all, in his debut episode, Jet wasn't shown to be totally awesome, save in a tree-filled environment. However, we did see Zuko as the Blue Spirit kick butt-molassas.

Seeing Iroh and Zuko try to fade from their past was very interesting, and one would kind of hope that they'd settle right then and there, and maybe sooner instead of later resolve to help Aang. However, their actions did provide excellent season 3 fodder...

I gave it a 9/10. The Jet-hypnosis was cool, as a rock going in a circle never seemed so pootent.
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« Reply #358 on: May 01, 2008 02:31 am »

I love the creepiness of this episode, if I had an avatard friend I would creep up behind them and say 'I'm Joo Dee" in her creepy happy robotic voice
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« Reply #359 on: May 30, 2008 11:24 pm »

What can be said about this episode that I haven't already said about the show itself: Awesome! Everything was great; from the Jetko fight, to the creepy ending which sets Avatar up as a great show for all ages! Smiley

Rating-10/10
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« Reply #360 on: Jun 27, 2008 02:38 pm »

Great! It gave us great twist and turns and suspense. It shaped Ba sing se very well the way this story was told. I wouldn't have this any other way.
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« Reply #361 on: Jun 30, 2008 10:11 am »

What I liked about the episode: Long Feng being actually cool and creepy. His library speech was awesome.
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« Reply #362 on: Sep 16, 2008 10:24 am »

There are so many things tio love in this episode. Smiley

Ba Sing Se is far from the Utopian paradise it claims to be.  People are literally separated by class, with the refugees and working class living in the lower ring, the artists, university people living in the middle ring, and the elite living in the upper ring.  That's disturbing in itself. 
But the Big Brother vibe of the Dai Lee is worse.  No one can mention the war that's raging outside Ba Sing Se's walls.  Everyone is supposed to live in a vacuum where only Ba Sing Se exists.
Joo Dee is just creepy.  Especially since there are multiple Joo Dees who are obviously brainwashed.

I love the gang's new house.  And Toph's comments about high society manners are funny.  Her line about having learned the manners but conciously rejecting them is great.  She really has chosen her own path in life.  I admire her a lot for that.

Zuko and Iroh working in a tea shop is a wonderful idea.  I'll bet Zuko never pictured himself doing that.  Shocked Iroh, of course, just loves being around tea.
Jet is completely obsessed with proving that Zuko and Iroh are firebenders.  He says that he'll get proof and go to the authorities.  But he's just too impatient and confronts them in the tea shop.
We get that awesome Jet/Zuko sword fight.  I just love when Zuko slices Jet's straw piece.  That shot looks so good.
Jet pays the price for his impatience.  It's off to brainwashing academy with him.
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« Reply #363 on: Sep 22, 2008 07:05 pm »

I was so excited about Jet and Zuko acutally fighting and him thinking he was a firebender! I really wished that Zuko, jet, and Katara all met at one time though.

The fight between Zuko and Jet was AMAZING. Brillitanly....uh....animated and very intense to watch.

oh and Toph hating Ba Sing Se....CLASSIC! Cheesy
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« Reply #364 on: Jun 05, 2010 12:13 am »

positives:
-a great beginning to the Ba Sing Se arc
-Iroh and Zuko working in a tea shop
-the dialogue between Iroh and Zuko about "hot leaf juice" Cheesy
-Ba Sing Se's government being corrupt makes it way more interesting than if it was just another "good guy" city
-Long Feng is a great villain
-the Zuko/Jet sword fight
-Sokka's Momo-ghost-plan Tongue
-Joo Dee (and Joo Dee #2)
-the very vague Invader Zim reference Grin
-Bosco! (and the gaang's confusion about a regular bear)

negatives:
-the Jet stuff gets a little old

rating: 10

This is definitely in my top five. Smiley
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« Reply #365 on: Jul 04, 2010 01:09 pm »

I loved how they framed Ba Sing Se as a type of Orwellian wet dream.  It really added a lot to the depth of the series to show that the earth kingdom isn't all sunshine and rainbows compared to the fire nation.  But I guess a 100 year war will turn anyone vicious.

Long Feng was a great villain, due in large part to Clancy Brown's voice work.  He probably knew right away that Katara and Toph had no business in that party when they first accosted him, but still escorted them in.  What a guy. Cool

I was also struck by Aang's comment that how he never went to Ba Sing Se because of how different it was from how he was taught to live by the monks.  That seems like the exact reason he should have gone.
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« Reply #366 on: Jul 04, 2010 04:25 pm »

Best line ever in the ep


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« Reply #367 on: Jul 04, 2010 04:36 pm »

this is the first episode i ever saw, and it is my favorite. its simply amazing, creepy, fun, and the fight scene is spectacular.
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« Reply #368 on: Sep 27, 2010 11:13 am »

I think those who call out Brave New World in relation to this story, didnt get that novel.
 Brave new worlds structure, was an improvement on a society collapsing. If you read to the end of the novel, they have the creative people who dont fit in on other islands working towards a better world.

 Here it seems the Dai Lee, want this "utopian" society to go on indefinitely.
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« Reply #369 on: Oct 03, 2010 09:57 am »

This episode was the da bomb diggity. I got say that!
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« Reply #370 on: Oct 03, 2010 01:34 pm »

I loved how they framed Ba Sing Se as a type of Orwellian wet dream.  It really added a lot to the depth of the series to show that the earth kingdom isn't all sunshine and rainbows compared to the fire nation.  But I guess a 100 year war will turn anyone vicious.

Long Feng was a great villain, due in large part to Clancy Brown's voice work.  He probably knew right away that Katara and Toph had no business in that party when they first accosted him, but still escorted them in.  What a guy. Cool

I was also struck by Aang's comment that how he never went to Ba Sing Se because of how different it was from how he was taught to live by the monks.  That seems like the exact reason he should have gone.

Well, he actually probably saw right through their disguises. I mean, the Earth Kingdom is full of diverse cultures, but Katara should definitely stand out in a crowd. Add that to the fact that she's with a small blind girl, and it doesn't take much to make the connection between them and the group the avatar traveled with to Ba Sing Se. Joo Dee met them at the train station, so, obviously, the Dai Li knew about the Gaang and the members thereof. He must have escorted them in with the intention of talking to them in the library, rather than turn them away at the gate and alienate them early. And when he said he would stay with them until they found their "family", he meant the rest of the Gaang. That's just how subtle and cool he is.  Cool
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« Reply #371 on: Oct 16, 2010 12:55 pm »

This episode was the da bomb diggity. I got say that!
You said it is the bomb no doubt all the episode are.
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« Reply #372 on: Dec 05, 2010 06:42 am »

I disagree that all episodes are the bomb. Anyways this episode is what officially drew me in and made me such a big fan. I have nothing negative to say about this one at all.
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« Reply #373 on: Dec 05, 2010 07:22 pm »

Since everyone seems to love this episode, maybe someone could break it down for me. When Long feng spoke with the gang during the party about the whole conspiracy, you can see the look on their faces when longy fongy spoke about silencing talk of conflict. What Am I missing? i can't grasp the full concept of the conspiracy or what makes the dai li so frightening and why that " minor government official" knew to warn aang to stay away from them. plus the whole brain washing thing. can someone explain to me why this is so serious and dramatic and creepy and scary?
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« Reply #374 on: Dec 06, 2010 12:27 am »

I liked this ep, but its not my fav. This really brought up that this city is not perfect and the king was either obvlious to everything or hes in this to make everyone think its safe to be in the walls of ba sing se
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